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Daku Otsito Raptor Navy Whatever. 13	Posted - 2015.12.11 07:40:49 - [1] - Quote Ah the blood raider DED sites 1. you need to apply more than 500 DPS EM to the final overseer in the 6/10 or else you won't break him. (keyword apply, HAMs have a tendency to not do that ) . 2. at 50KM you don't need a big tank at all for both the 5/10 or the 6/10 (expectations should be that you can do your full dps at that range) 3. the 6/10 has a freaking statis tower that you cant kill (or shouldn't anyway) in the second room(Maybe third) and around 12 ish BS 4. Neuting isn't an issue if you don't go near certains BS's (<25 Km) and if you kill those it's brawling time tengu its a great ship but 600dps with rage HAMs is not that great might as well go for a stratios for almost same dps but at 60Km check this out this being said i've been EFT-ing my a..off for a better ship and unless you go for a BS nothing projects at that range short of an ishtar but with 4 mids and 0 EM resists and no lasers bonus you still go to the stratios. I hate it cause 560 DPs ish is not that great for a DED but i'm not finding better solution other than the tengu which won't run it faster anyway if you calculate 300 ish dps with javs for the small stuff. also old but gold
Daku Otsito Raptor Navy Whatever. 14	Posted - 2015.12.11 15:22:47 - [2] - Quote it never was about tank :D im sure you could make due even with this one (i know i did): [Tengu, panzer] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Capacitor Flux Coil II Pith B-Type EM Ward Field Pith B-Type EM Ward Field Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster Missile Guidance Computer I, Missile Range Script 10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner Domination Shield Boost Amplifier Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst point is its still 650 dps and not enough range on those damn hams :) by all means though do use the tengu, it is the best ship for doing these sites ( If its worth to field it though i don't know considering ammo needs, refits to combat and travel fits you still get the same time for finding and clearing a site.
Daku Otsito Raptor Navy Whatever. 14	Posted - 2015.12.11 15:51:17 - [3] - Quote what i can give is this: Depends on range far too much. look at the tank on that stratios its 2 extenders and 2 hardeners + rigs it gets around 70k ehp against blood raiders and its enough to actually tank the whole last room on the 5/10 for the time necessary to kill the overseer and warp out . around 40% shields too so comfortable. The engagement range is 54-60 Km and you will be using curators. If you stick to those ranges you will always be at 70-80% shields. one trcik for the 6/10 is to pull the overseer away from the other dudes as he is the only to aggress and use heavies. when i ran the site in a the tengu fit i posted it could tank anything if i was at 35 Km from the closest BS but slip once and you might have to find out how fast can you warp when you are cap dead ( the worst experience is on the 3rd room of the 6/10) you will need to wait for the BS to come to you since you want to be out of the sentinel web range (50km) you need speed to tank with my fit. this being said nothing scrams in those sites so try the fits, one thing i can definitely tell you is that your fit is overtanked though.
Daku Otsito Raptor Navy Whatever. 14	Posted - 2015.12.12 02:26:47 - [4] - Quote Altair Taurus wrote: In my case slightly pimped Tengu with six HAM launchers can deal 750 dps (pure EM) @ 40 km / 600 dps @ 70 km and has around 600 dps tank against Sansha while speed-tanking 600 m/s. Enough? More than enough but i wonder how you got that dps (i hope you didn't make the ship a loot pinata) probably implants though :) also i was trying the gila on the sansha 6/10 it took me f...forever to kill the overseer with 700 dps, and i had to warp out once due to tank (i was flying close to use fury missiles though) anyway just wanted to tell you gila works on sansha well enough but you need HMLs if you want to keep range ( i was using rlmls but they suck ) Edit: it was today so its after nerf gila we are talking about

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